HoN vs LoL vs DotA vs DotA 2.0 Part II
So why is League of Legends surpassing Heroes of Newerth as a replacement of DotA? It’s been widely criticized for it’s messy game design, it’s stupid japanophile graphics and overall just being a watered down content version of DotA that has totally been removed from the AoS style of game, which may not totally be a bad thing.
Could it be that LoL has Pendragon, a mastermind of a businessman that rivals even Hunter_ without the shadiness? I mean he still has the TDA forums up & running even though TDA exists no more but it makes him so much moolah it’s not funny at all. Does this have something to do with the $100,000 Season 1 prize money? The fact that it, for the moment at least, is Free to play? Another huge lure from the $$$ costing HoN? Lastly this impressive Season 1 trailer is so much eye candy but as a lot of people have pointed out, they are upset that Riot Games have spent time on making a video to attract new players as opposed to updating new content to keep the already playerbase.
Or is it that S2 games still has major issues with balancing? I mean we still have the same 5 heroes being picked/banned in EVERY competitive game and it seems you either ban or pick those heroes or your doom is neigh. Or it’s somewhat unstable servers? It’s been widely noted that the USW servers are horrendous even for some USW players, spiking from 200 to upwards of 800ms ping in a single match. Now don’t get me wrong, the gaming industry is a business but it does seem like S2 gaming is just a money grabbing scheme over and over. First of all the price to buy a HoN account is $30, to buy a sub-account (or AKA or Alternative account) is $20 and to reset your stats is another $20. That’s right people if you get shit on early in your HoN career and don’t want to shell out $20 to have another chance at people not kicking you from every game then you are pretty much S-C-R-E-W-E-D. What’s more they this past weekend let all the smurfing return for a one time weekend only (for now at least). All old pre-retail accounts were once again active and allowed to play to test HoN, why? So that players who didn’t pay will hopefully be enticed to buy HoN.
And what of DotA? The competitive scene has somewhat recently lost one of it’s most prominent names for ages to come, Merlini. New faces are emerging from Asia and the European teams are starting to pale in comparison of teamwork and skill. What this spells for DotA tournaments is yet to be seen but thus far they are holding strong. DotAcast I have to say is being run by a bunch of shmucks who throw out swear words like candy, very professional for what is suppose to be a very prominent e-Sports media company. And what of a new version? The versions take an absurdly long time to come out unless it’s a quick fix to a bug (usually resulting in a .b/.c version etc.) I mean I know firsthand how stupid the WC3 editor is but with rumors swirling of DotA 2.0 being worked on one question remains, is it time for Icefrog to hand over the reigns of DotA to someone who can focus 100% on WC3′s DotA?
Which brings me to DotA 2.0, not much news has surfaced since my last rant although there have been questions of release dates in which the president has stated “soon but we are not 100% set on a date”. Yeah OK you might as well have said fuck you we’ll release it when we want to. Perhaps the suggestions that DotA 2.0 is not Valve’s #1 project as some people had suggested and due to E3, I think we can all confirm that a slight bit. So again the usual questions arise, What is valve doing, what is icefrog doing, when will it be released, why am i a fat ugly pre-pubesc– oops that ones for Dr Phil. As of right now all I can tell you for sure is that … well nothing since LITERALLY no new news has arised since my last rant, either Valve is keeping a tight tight lid on things or there literally is nothing new to say.
AND AS ALWAYS
Tags: comparison, Dota, dota 2.0, HoN, league of legends, lol, popularity, traffic
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The second link is flawed. You can’t compare searches for “league of legends” and “heroes of newerth” with searches for “dota”. People search for “lol” and “hon” much more than the extended titles, just like they search for “dota” way more than they do for “defense of the ancients”.
Compare the extended titles and Dota is getting crushed outright by Hon AND Lol in search popularity:
http://www.google.at/trends?q=League+of+Legends%2C+Heroes+of+Newerth%2C+Defense+of+the+Ancients&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
But compare the abbreviated titles and it’s a closer race with Dota edging out Lol edging out Hon
http://www.google.at/trends?q=dota%2C+hon%2C+lol&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
I can’t speak for Lol having not played it, but Hon is a great game that captures the spirit and gameplay of Dota and is well worth 30$ to play it forever. This is a great deal that amounts to pennies per game if you play it even close to regularly. As far as balance issues: the vast majority of Hon players play EM or are not even close to being good enough for minor balance issues to even be relevant at all– issues that will obviously be addressed on a regular basis as S2 continues to update their game; so suggesting that this hurts their marketing is way off. And for competitive players there are plenty of S2-sponsored tournaments and leagues to take part in. Yeah maybe for a few weeks you ban Fayde or lose the game. Rome wasn’t built in a day, noob. Other shit like team matchmaking is on the way to further improve the experience.
I don’t see the point in bashing S2. We like Hon. We like Dota. It’s frivolous to compare them. Hon has a huge advantage of having a much newer engine they built themselves with way more freedom to do whatever they want, and a whole company supporting their development. Yeah your new car is going to be nicer than your 10 year old one. That doesn’t mean the old one wasn’t great in its own right. Another thing is that Hon was made to emulate Dota and even port its exact heroes and items, because it was made by people who loved Dota. Bashing Hon is like hating on a Beatles tribute band for playing Beatles music that you both love because they aren’t the actual Beatles. Hey dipshit, give them a chance. And why go to their concerts so much if you don’t dig it?
Whether Lol or Hon is a better game and successor to Dota is a lot more worthwhile discussion than arguing whether either of them is better than Dota, and definitely better than rambling about how their marketing strategies suck (they have to make money somehow) and basically just being butthurt that these games even exist at all and that people are playing them instead of Dota, which seems to be your modus operandi (yeah I just busted that term out). Get over it Kanye, no one likes your fucking music anyways. Hon is great. So is Dota. Hon took a dip in popularity because it went retail and pinoys, 15 year olds with no money, and casual gaming morons aren’t playing it anymore, and that’s it. Doesn’t mean the game suddenly sucks.
I played dota , hon and lol .. lol is a waste of time is cartoon and slow game you cant even talk about balance in that game so my opinion is that lol is shit no ofance . So dota is a good game but graphics is very old but i found hon graphics is beautiful and the game speed is faster and its just perfect , and maybe dota will come free and whit new graphics then i will play again dota but valve comes up whit the new dota i will pass .. until now hon is the best game in this genere og game. and sory about my bad bad english !
I’m in a largely NZ/Aus clan and we play basically 95% USW servers. I’ve personally never had any issues with USW lag of any consequence. Compared to dota (which is still play on occasion) HoN is much much faster and responsive.
I am also playing HoN from Australia and never experience this so called lag. LoL is okay, but since I played dota before hand HoN offers a greater level of play. The graphics is LoL is stuipid IMO. Also this so called FREE LoL is a load of crap, most people that play LoL a lot end up paying more than $30. HoN is like counter-strike source upgrade from CS 1.6. Kept the core fundamentals that makes the game great and upgraded graphics and minor gameplay changes. Exactly what needed to be done. Hopefully it continues to rise in popularity.
Post made me LOL cause you’re obviously a LoL fanboy. Shitty post IMO.
Absolutely agree with what you reported. Your explanation was by far the easiest to comprehend. I tell you, I usually get annoyed when folks discuss issues that they clearly do not know about. You managed to hit the nail right on the head and rolled out everything without complication. Hopefully, other people can take a cue. Will be back for additional. Keep writing
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